英国网友问:中国古代是怎样制造箭的?新加坡网友:他们用流水线

阿雅评论 2023-12-19 15:41:08

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箭由三部分组成:箭头、箭身和羽毛。

箭身和羽毛的难度较小。真正难制作的是金属箭头。

古代中国人在制造金属箭头方面非常熟练,他们甚至创建了某种类似流水线的工厂来生产箭头。

这是考古学家在2200年前的秦始皇兵马俑坑中发现的青铜箭头。

已发现超过40,000个这样的箭头。根据箭头附近发现的其他武器上的铭文,考古学家发现箭头的制作时间相隔数十年。

他们可能来自不同时间、不同地点的军工厂。

但所有箭头都保持高度一致。

秦朝三角箭三边轮廓误差不超过0.15毫米,箭刃采用流线型三锥空间曲线。放大24倍后,与当代手枪子弹的轮廓奇迹般重合。

此外,冶金专家还对箭头进行了金相分析,发现数以万计的箭头实际上是用相同的金属配比铸造的。这意味着,无论是在北方草原,还是在南方丛林,战场上,秦军向对手射出的所有箭矢,品质都是一样的。

可想而知,这样的箭飞得平稳,速度快,命中率极高。而且,箭头标准是统一的。这支箭的品质和之前的箭一模一样,不会有大的偏差。

这是只有现代工业才能达到的水平。然而,这在2200年前的中国古代就已经做到了。

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Stacy Lin

· Sat

Not only that…if you look at the geometry of the arrowheads, they create a triangular wound which cannot close on its own. So the victim can bleed out no matter what part of the body the arrow strikes even if it is not a critical point within the torso. British bayonets of the post renaissance period had a similar reputation.

不仅如此……如果你观察箭头的几何形状,它们会形成一个无法自行闭合的三角形伤口。因此,无论箭击中身体的哪个部位,即使不是躯干内的关键点,受害者也可能会一直流血。文艺复兴后时期的英国刺刀也有类似的声誉。

Profile photo for Oliver C. BeOliver C. Be· Sep 27impressive不可思议

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Ahmad Jamal

· Sep 28

Great. I didn't think it would be possible without some central controlled authority.

太伟大了。我认为如果没有中央机构,这是不可能的。

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Yimin Selaks

· Sep 28

The Qin was very centralized and basically ended feudalism in China, which is why they were able to pull stuff off like this as well as standardising coins, roads etc

秦朝非常强大,基本上结束了中国的封建制度,这就是为什么他们能够实现这样的事情以及标准化硬币、道路等

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Anthony Maw

· Sep 28

I’m pretty sure those Chinese bronze arrows could penetrate a Crusader’s chainmail body protection and even Knight’s armour.

我很确定那些中国青铜箭可以穿透十字军的锁子甲身体保护,甚至骑士的盔甲。

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Benson Osuji

· Sep 27

Not bronze, the consistent standard over decades and the fact that they were producing millions of arrows that were almost the same 2000 years ago, maybe the Romans or Persians achieved the same but I'm not privy to that information.

关键不是青铜,而是几十年来的一致标准,事实上他们生产了数百万支与 2000 年前几乎相同的箭头,也许罗马人或波斯人也达到了同样的水平,但我不知道这些信息。

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Benson Osuji

· Sep 28

That's impressive although I'll check

这令人印象深刻,我去学习一下

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Yimin Selaks

· Sep 27

It’s more about the consistent quality and mass production that was hard to achieve, not bronze casting

更多的是难以实现的一致质量和批量生产,而不是青铜铸造

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Christopher Jean

· Sep 30

The west did cast bronze for centuries but the article refers to scale and continuity of production as the key focal point. The west did not produce anything close to that level of production because of the simple questions you should be asking such as population concentration and economic potential. Warfare was entirely different in the Western world and restricted to the economic elite for the most part with combat mostly based upon hand to hand melee. Missile weapons as a percentage of armaments was a small minority of total weapons and battlefield inflicted casualties. This was due to many factors such as the social systems, economic conditions and cultural factors. It took Europe about 1500 years to approach the warfare conditions of total war which were practiced during the Warring states period of Chou Dynasty times. There are many books or articles written about this phenomenon by military historians. The Chou Dynasty armies were already fighting in nationally mobilized Pike, Halberd and Bow combined units in much of the same fashion as Medieval Swiss. Yes, the Chinese were fighting in Pike Phalanxes of societal industrial size as early as the 6th-7th century BC even before Phillip rearmed his Macedonians. That is how far advanced they were in their technological application to military practice in total war. Alexander the Great experimented with Pike and Persian Bow armed mixed units near the end of his life on the practice field ….something the Chou armies were already familiar. Aside from the Ancient Egyptians, Persians and Imperial age Romans there have been few in any states of this period who could produce industrial level military equipment with a standardization and quality, consistency, reliability on such a massive scale. ✌️😊

西方铸造青铜已有几个世纪的历史,但文章将生产的规模和连续性视为关键焦点。西方没有生产任何接近这一生产水平的产品。你应该问一些简单的问题,例如人口集中度和经济潜力。西方世界的战争则完全不同,大多数情况下仅限于精英之间的战争,战斗主要基于肉搏战。远程武器占军备的比例小,仅占武器总数和战场伤亡的一小部分。这是由社会制度、经济条件、文化因素等多种因素造成的。欧洲用了大约1500年的时间才达到了周代战国时期实行的全面战争的战争条件。军事历史学家写了很多关于这种现象的书籍或文章。周朝军队已经是全部装备长矛、戟和弓的合成军队,其方式与中世纪瑞士人的方式大致相同。是的,早在公元前六世纪至七世纪,中国人就以社会工业规模的长矛方阵进行战斗,甚至在菲利普重新武装他的马其顿方阵之前。这就是他们在全面战争中将技术应用到军事实践中的成果。亚历山大大帝在他生命的最后阶段才在练习场上试验了长矛和波斯弓武装混合部队……周朝军队很早对此已经很熟悉了。除了古埃及人、波斯人和帝国时代的罗马人之外,这一时期的任何国家都很少有人能够大规模生产具有标准化、质量、一致性和可靠性的工业级军事装备。 ✌️😊

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Petra Liel

· Sep 28

Im sure some did with stone or obsidian but not with a factory 2000 some years ago producing it with consistency

我确信有些人用的是石头或黑曜石来做武器,但 2000 年前的工厂不可能一致地生产它

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Baw-Lin Liu

· Sep 28

Prior to the rise of Qin, Persia possessed advanced technology and civilian standards, and under Greek rule, Persian immigrants might have shared their knowledge with the people of Qin. On the other hand, Qin was at a disadvantage among the other six states, and with their dedication and strict governance, they could have developed their own unified system and mass-produced weaponry without Persian assistance.

在秦崛起之前,波斯拥有先进的技术和民用水平,在希腊统治下,波斯移民可能与秦人分享他们的知识。另一方面,秦国在其他六国中处于劣势,凭借他们的奉献精神和严格的治理,他们可以在没有波斯援助的情况下发展自己的统一制度并大量生产武器。

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lee peng

· Sep 28

What you mean is that the Qin Empire’s arrow technology was taught by the Persians.

Great, can you find some pictures of Persian mass-produced arrowheads?

你的意思是,秦帝国的箭头技术是波斯人传授的。

很好,你能找几张波斯人大规模生产的箭头图片来看看吗?

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Deekshith M S

· Sep 28

I have seen ancient Roman weapon artifacts in museums in Italy. They also have many arrows.

I can't say those arrows weren't sharp, but they came in all sizes and shapes.

They look like they are handmade compared to the Chinese arrowheads which look like they are machine tooled and they even have a polished surface!

我在意大利的博物馆里看到过古罗马的武器文物。他们也有许多箭头。

我不能说那些箭头不锋利,但是他们大小各异,形状也各式各样。

和中国的箭头相比,他们像是手工打造的,而中国的这些箭头像是机床加工的,他们甚至抛光了表面!

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zhang wei jie

· Sep 28

I am Chinese, and I want to say that what the questioner said is true.

But the wonders of these weapons have not yet been fully demonstrated.

In fact, they not only opened an assembly line, but also designed a "tracking serial number"

On every weapon made by the Qin Empire, there will be several small text recording information as follows:

1. Date

2. The minister’s name

3. Name of supervisor

4. Worker’s name

In Chinese history books, this is called "marking workers' names on things", which means that every product must be traceable to its manufacturer. If there is a quality problem, the manufacturer will be held accountable.

It's a pity they didn't have smartphones before 2000, otherwise we would have seen a bronze cast QR code on it.

我是中国人,我想说答主说的都是事实

但是还并没有完全展示这些武器的奇迹。

实际上他们不但开通了流水线,还设计了“追踪序列号”

每一件秦帝国制造的武器上,都会有几个很小的文字记录信息如下

1、日期

2、大臣的名字

3、主管的名字

4、工人的名字

在中国人的历史书上,这叫做“物勒工名”,意思是每一件产品都要能追踪到他的制造者,一旦存在质量问题,则追究制造者的责任。

可惜他们在2000年前没有智能手机,否则我们会看到那上面存在一个青铜铸造的二维码。

Beckham

· Sep 28

It's an incredible miracle that ancient China was so advanced. How they have become a source of inferior products lately.

贝克汉姆

难以置信的奇迹,中国古代是如此先进。他们最近怎么成了劣质产品的来源。

Barbara Ball

· Sep 28

You must know that iPhones are also made in China, and disposable Christmas trees are also made in China.

If the Chinese products you encounter are all inferior, it means you can only afford such things.

I don't mean to offend

你必须知道,iphone也是中国制造,一次性圣诞树也是中国制造。

如果你遇到的中国货都是劣质产品,说明你只消费得起这样的东西。

我无意冒犯

Jack Blog

· Sep 28

Where can I see these wonders? Did you see it in the British Museum? Still have to go to China

杰克博客

哪里可以看到这些奇迹?你是在大英博物馆看到的吗?还是必须去中国

Barbara Ball

· Sep 28

As far as I know, because the nu

mber is too large.

These bronze arrowheads are not very valuable.

I even saw it on AliExpress

据我所知,由于数量太过庞大。

这些青铜箭头并不非常珍贵。

我甚至在速卖通上看到过

zhang wei jie

· Sep 28

Friends, trust me, what’s on AliExpress is just modern knockoffs.

For the real thing, you need to go to Xi’an Museum

朋友,相信我,速卖通上的只是现代仿制品。

真货你需要去陕西博物馆才能看到

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  • 五龙 36
    2023-12-20 12:32

    秦国始终拒绝儒家进入秦国权力阶层。如果以阴谋论来看历史,那么会发现秦朝灭亡儒家影子在其中若隐若现。秦亡后儒家拼命抺黑秦始皇,和秦国制度。不让他们当权就弄死你,这就是儒家[吃瓜]

    众志成城 回复:
    秦国是法家和墨家的最终极形态之一。其中莫家美国现在还在用,而且是升级完美版,看看他现在是世界第几。
    用户10xxx38 回复:
    秦国发家其实是考法家,包括独尊儒术,也是法儒不是真儒家,只是后期慢慢阉割了血性而已,国人从来不怕打仗,上下五千年没打过仗的时间最多也就几百年
  • 彰润 28
    2023-12-21 21:37

    秦是法家思想大放光彩的时代,实际上,换个表述角度来说,也是管理知识深刻渗透到社会各个层面的时期

    彰润 回复:
    李斯是墨家?哈哈哈
  • 2023-12-20 20:19

    西方,尤其是美国,由于其短暂的历史,他们理解起中国历史来十二分的吃力。[笑着哭][笑着哭]

    厌蠢症患者 回复:
    中国,由于过于漫长的历史,理解西方发展速度来二十分的吃力。
    老子痛恨汉奸 回复: 厌蠢症患者
    西方发展很快吗?
  • 2023-12-20 14:37

    再去看看哪些戈,剑,戟,那上面开的刃,比你家菜刀的刃口还要好,那可是几千年前啊

    卡心 回复:
    不管哪个朝代兵器制造都有统一标准,只要不是王朝末期制度崩坏那制造出来的武器质量都是一等一的好,制造出不合格武器很容易被抄家砍头的。
    我心飞扬 回复:
    在古战场好多村子用的菜刀就是古剑,确实比菜刀好用
  • 2023-12-22 13:45

    如果稍有偏差,就要用脑袋负责!这个保证了质量。

    鹰击长空 回复: 用户10xxx80
    独一无二方能展示我兔的尊贵品质。
    用户10xxx80 回复:
    重要的是品控,新中国螺丝都不能通用
  • 2024-01-18 21:06

    那个被压弯的秦剑挪开兵俑后自己复原了!

  • 2023-12-31 19:13

    估计度量衡达到的标准很高,形成一套工业体系了

  • 2023-12-20 22:16

    告诉老外,不用造,只需草船借箭。